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HT/alandcrew/wall of text, maple is serious business
Note: nothing in this post is intended as a negative remark to/or against anyone. While I understand many are sensitive about the problem, im simply stating the issues that many people have about what’s going on. If you cant handle the discussion in an mature manner, don’t read it.
Due to issues between alandcrew's horntail organizers and other squads, we are asking that any members who join the alandcrew horntail squad stop attending the runs (for the said time). While I know not many who run with alandcrew agree with this, I’ll make a few points that hopefully you'll understand.
undercutting and the market, its situation on our guild:
alandcrew undercutting HT item prices so dramatically to move inventory faster severely hurts our horntail goals and the aspirations of other future squads.
It also can monopolize the market on certain items, like MW20, where buyers will wait for alandcrew to acquire the book because they can acquire it so cheap from them, leaving other squads trying to sell the book for a fair market price struggling to find a buyer.
We depend on the few items we can sell (after supplying skillbooks to guild/squad members) to fund our next HT run. At the time being we have to use zakum drops to fund the cost of running HT, in turn taking a longer time to fund a future run. Initially this is going to change once we can start attempting runs sooner and having a inventory of items to fund the next run.
Achieving this balance has been difficult because while we want to use as many HT drops to fund HT, we also want to achieve a split for the HT squad to encourage members to continue to come to our runs.
The process of selling zakum drops for HT is somewhat unfair to members who cant or don’t HT with the guild, aside of the theory that we are using the funds to build a HT squad that will/can benefit everyone in the guild in the long run. Alandcrews actions in the long run will hurt our marketing abilities once we can sell items such as mw20 and gen30, meaning we may still be depending on zakum drops to fund ht to keep the squad going in the short term.
To encourage members of the guild and squad to keep attending the HT run who DONT need any ht items, we need to have a sufficient split to share with the squad, alandcrews actions also harm our ability to do this
that said, personally I don’t fully agree with the other squads ideology about pricing and HT items. Natural progression in the market should be allowed to happen, while being courteous to fellow squads about not intentionally undercutting the fair market price so severely which harms everyone. At the same time attempting to price fix items to maintain what one group wants doesn’t work either.
These types of situations remind me of why I and many others left scania, one group trying to keep total control over one aspect (zak/ht) doesn’t work and isn’t fair. It also, like many have brought up, makes me wonder about the future and what people will expect; if other squads later want to let the market progress in a sane way while the main squad wants prices to maintain at a premium, what will happen? will the squad group up against any other squad who doesn’t do what they say? why should I maintain a permit every week to sell a skillbook for a premium, if I can sell it for 25-50m less and have a sale sooner than later. This is how free market works and trying to contain it is somewhat disturbing.
I also understand that some don’t like the fact that alandcrew dose contain illegitimate players who are benefiting from horntail and with this I agree, personally I choose not to help ex hackers/cheaters prosper. I’m also not interested in regulating players “game values” about what’s right and what’s wrong. At the same time this is nothing new about alandcrew and the fact I see this argument now coming up again only when alandcrew is harming the price structure of HT items is a bit disappointing, seeing people sideline the issue until they harm everyone’s meso.
This said I can understand and see how alandcrews actions effect us and the server as well. Hopefully the issue will stabilize and end with what’s fair for everyone. For the time being im asking that forsaken members do not attend alandcrew runs to avoid added drama and issues which will harm the guild and our aspirations. I agree on the issues with alandcrew like I always have, but this situation still raises some serious questions about how people are operating and if people are working the best interest of the server and not for a few.
I understand many of our main members in the guild need HT items and are tired of waiting, either because our runs are so spaced out or have shown disappointment with the private squads not being accepting of players for one reason or another. To address this DD knows we have to start running HT more often and I know he plans to work on making this happen. I hope you all understand and work with us to help everyone get the items they need. Many of us have been waiting a long time to get a HT item, please be patient and work with us.
To know what members need from HT, please let us know here.
